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So, as we got off work, probably 4.30 I think, we were working nine hours a day.

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I came home and hit to get my fishing gear and we wouldn't go out in a boat because we

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were going to the banks of the river and fishing from the banks for speckle trout and redfish.

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So we got out of eight and we got to the river and tried several spots and it had become

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dark by that time.

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And we do quite a bit of fishing after it got down here in that time of the year.

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So I don't know what attracted my attention while I had reached around and get more bait

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which was sitting behind us.

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I heard some kind of zipping like sound like a steam was coming from a pipe.

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And as it turned around, I saw some two blue flashing lights or either pulsating lights,

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I'm not sure.

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And it seemed like it was some type of craft and it seemed like it was almost down to the

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ground then.

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In fact, it seemed to be about a couple of feet above the ground and it just hovered

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there.

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So Kevin had turned by this time and he was looking at it too.

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And really I didn't know what to do.

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I just spelled by there for a few minutes and then almost immediately some type of opening

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appeared and then it was torn as with what I soon would be the front end.

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And the light had come outside which was real bright light.

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And three things appeared in the doorway of the craft and they seemed to just glide out

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of the craft and they were towards the ground.

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They seemed to just glide across, it must have been 25 or 30 feet from us or maybe a

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little further than that.

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And they came to us, just glided over to us and two of them took me by the arms from

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the side and one took a hold of Calvin and I seen Calvin go limp and I didn't know

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it then but he had fainted.

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So they carried me inside the craft and the light was almost blinding inside.

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In fact, for about three or four days I had something like a bed well-inflaged in my

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eyes.

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I can't recall or I can't remember just what was on the inside simply because the light

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was sobriety that I just couldn't make out what it was but I didn't see any tables or

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chairs and the room seemed to be round.

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Of course that could have been because the light seemed to be glowing from the walls

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and overhead in the ceiling.

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But they carried me, I guess, about the middle of the room and we would just seem to be suspended

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there.

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I didn't move, I didn't have any feelings, no sensation of any feel and it seemed to

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something like a big eye.

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I keep referring to it as an eye because it was about size for small baseball and in

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the end it was focused toward me, it was a different color or different light and it

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seemed to come directly out from the wall and it came within six or eight inches of

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my face and it remained there for a few minutes and then it very few minutes and then it went

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over my entire body.

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I'm assuming it did because when it went down like this I seemed to be suspended there

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and the next time I seen it it was coming back up over this way so I assumed that it

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went over my entire body.

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But it came back in front of my face and stayed there for a few more minutes and then it seemed

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just to go right back into the wall.

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And these things, the way they were holding me, I was elevated because they weren't as

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tall as me and they were upright and I was elevated like this and I could see, I could

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move my eyes on the thing that I couldn't move and I could see that they had released

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me and I don't know where they went, whether they went outside the craft or another room

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or compartment but they didn't come in front of me and they left me that way for a few

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minutes, I don't know how long and then after a while I've seen them then when they come

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back to the side of me and took hold of me again and they carried me back outside the

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craft and we were still just gliding, I wasn't touching anything that I know of and they

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seemed to just glide back out the way they had taken me from and put me back down on

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the ground.

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But when they did I fell because my legs were weak and they gave way on me and it was this

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time that I seen Calvin again, he was standing there, he was standing facing the river with

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his arms outstretched and he was almost in shock.

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They seemed to appear to me at that time, something was wrong with him but so I was

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trying to make my way toward him and I was crawling, I couldn't get my legs to work

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him but before I got to him the strength of what it was came back to my legs and I was

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getting up on my feet and I heard the sound I heard before a zipping sound and I glanced

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around and I saw the blue flashing lights and the craft was just gold, it just almost

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danced on it and I made it to Calvin and I shook him and was calling to him and it

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took me several minutes to get him where I could even talk to him with any sense and

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he was going in shock.

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And these things that came out of the craft, they were about five or five foot four inches

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tall and they didn't have a neck, the head seemed to come directed to the shoulders and

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they had something that resembled a nose on a face and about what ears would be, something

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that was similar to the nose, it was a little longer, they seemed to come out almost to

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a point and under the nose there was something like a slit for a mouth and it was very wrinkled

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and it appeared to me to be something like an elephant skin but not on the way it was,

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a metal or what it was but it seemed to be very wrinkled with the wrinkles running horizontal

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and in the area where the eyes should have been, it was so wrinkled that I'm not even

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sure there were eyes, I don't know, I can't recall whether there were any eyes not in

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Calvin and said he came but anyway after I got Calvin Warren could talk to him, we didn't

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know what to do and we were almost scared to death and we first decided we wouldn't

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tell anyone but the more we talked about it, the more we realized that we had to tell somebody

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who's the military authorities if nobody else so we called Keesler Air Force Base which

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is only about, it blocks you about 30 miles south of here and I talked to someone there

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and they told me that the Air Force didn't handle those things anymore, that we would

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have to go through our Sheriff's Department. Well then we hesitated again because you know

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you go to the people just, something like that is not supposed to happen and when you

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would probably be laughed at and ridiculed but we talked it over again and decided we

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would call the Sheriff's Department and the Sheriff Fred Diamond told us to come on over

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there that we talk about it so we stayed there for several hours talking with them and them

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question us and the Sheriff promised me that it wouldn't, it wouldn't any news media know

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anything about it that he would try to get it to the proper authorities if he could find

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who the proper authorities was and have it investigated so we went home that morning and

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it was morning because they had kept us there quite late and we're assures that no, it wouldn't

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be any publicity about it at all. Well we went on to work that morning and by seven or eight

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o'clock they was telephone ringing all over the shipyard and I called Fred Diamond and he said

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that he don't know how the story leaked out from the Sheriff's Department but you know that by that

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time the whole world knew about it. You said something that was like an eye ran up and down

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your body do you think it was like examining you? Yes it was something, it had to be some type of

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examination well I say had to be it appears to me that it would be and after talking with a lot

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of scientists and I'm convinced that it was something that was some type of examination

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that it did. Did you communicate with these creatures these things? No in the only sound

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that they made they didn't have to communicate with me the only sound that they made one of them

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and I'm not even sure they come from more of the things but it was some kind of moment

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like sound a little moment sound for one of them but other than that they didn't try to communicate

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I tried to say something to them aboard the craft but I think now and I have a

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reasons to believe many of them reason to believe these things were robots they weren't

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beings they were being controlled by beings from somewhere else. What made you think that's for?

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Well for some reason just mentioning several reasons I didn't see any movement of breath in the chest area

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I didn't see any movement of breath in the slit of the mouth here it didn't move and when they move

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they seem to move as something mechanically they could move their arms like this and in the shoulders

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but their head didn't move and when they move they seem to turn as if mechanically it appeared to me

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that they they had something that they were programmed you might say to do something they had

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something specific to do and they just simply done it their attention wasn't distracted one with the

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other. Did their examination of you hurt you? No no the only only physical pain that I had is when

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when they took hold of me there on the banks of the river the one it took hold of my left arm in

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this arm here just instantly I felt pain but it was gone just that quick and then once the boy

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of the boarded craft at one time I felt this the same pain in the same area again but it was just

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instantly and that's the only physical pain that I had through the entire thing. Now approximately

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how long do you figure you were in the craft itself? Well I'm not sure because I don't

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wear a watch a watch won't keep time on me and Calvin didn't have a watch and we um we've tried

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to go back and uh I've tried to go back and try to figure the time out from the time that we left

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the area going to call it occasionally Air Force Base and all and it could have possibly been as long

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as as um well it could have been anywhere from 30 minutes to to an hour and probably even longer than

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Can you give us some idea of the size of this craft that you were suspended with then?

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Well the craft uh let me explain now the angle that I was looking toward the craft it's hard for

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me to say which I can't say whether the craft was round like a disk or what it was long or oblong

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like a cigar because I'll be it was it was let me give you an example like the craft was sitting

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here we're assuming that this is the front end of it that was the end it was torus but I'm looking

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at it from this angle so all I can see is what is this side is what I'm assuming to be the front

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and maybe it's a little bit of the back so I can't be sure whether the craft was was round like a

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disk or was long or oblong but it appeared to me there was about 30 or 40 foot long and maybe

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uh eight or ten foot high just before the opening appeared there seemed to be two small windows

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up toward the front in the top two small windows and directly behind the windows was the revolving

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or the post-late and blue light now you said you attempted to talk to these creatures could you

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not talk or could your vocal cords not work well uh that's hard to explain I know I was saying

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something but for some strange reason I couldn't hear myself you know you can hear yourself talk

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but uh I know I was either saying something or trying to say something but I didn't hear myself

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talking. Now when they brought you back outside they deposited you on the bank where you were

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fishing before with your friend. That's right all those the exact spot yes. What kind of shape is he in?

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Um he seemed to be when I seen him he seemed to be going in shock I've seen many men in shock in

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the Korean War and he seemed to be going in shock because it took me it took me several minutes to

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even get in the water to talk to him to make any sense. So once the craft deposited you and

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Kelvin back on the bank without any further ado it just departed. It departed that's right it departed.

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Now you said you went to the authorities did the Air Force at that time cite any radar sightings in

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that area at that time unusual sightings? Well I'm not sure because the Air Force won't talk about

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those things uh they didn't uh they didn't even want to talk you know they didn't want to talk

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with us about it. The only connection that we had uh you might say with the Air Force is the next day

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it uh it known on me that we might have been uh contaminated with radiation or something. So I

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we were at the sheriff's department and I asked the sheriff if we could be examined for radiation

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because I was quite worried I'd been with my family I'd been in contact with many people. So uh

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Detective Huntley that called Keith their Air Force base and they said yes they would check us for

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radiation. So they kept us out there and they checked us all they swabbed our shoes our clothing

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and and under our fingernails and all and they put it you know in little tubes and I don't know

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what happened to it but they said there wasn't any sign of radiation and at that time we asked for

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you know asked to talk with the intelligence at Keith's Air Force base which that was going

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into us and we were in the conference room with a bunch of colonel's and um and of course uh

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the detective Huntley was there and uh we uh we told them what happened to us and they seemed

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very interested and uh they told us it a report would follow which never did. So the Air Force I

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think they just I don't know they just uh keep hands off of things like that. How burst it under

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some strange reason. Have you been examined by any psychiatrist or put under an hypnotic

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trance to relate your story? Yes um this happened on Thursday night on Saturday morning Dr.

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Allen Huntley could call from Northwestern University and Dr. James Harder from the University of

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off from Berkeley uh they came to Pasadena and they they questioned Calvin and me in in length

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and we were placed under unhypnotism with a local psychiatrist present along with a medical

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doctor present and Dr. Heineck and Dr. Harder yes we were hypnotized in question. What was the

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result of that? Dr. Harder and Dr. Heineck were convinced that um that it you know that it was

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actually happened to us and then I might add that um we uh we asked the sheriff that night

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because after we decided to tell the sheriff certainly we wanted to to prove to him that it

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did happen so we asked for a lot of detective tests. They didn't have the facility here in Jackson

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County so later on in the I think it was either the latter part of October or the early part of

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November uh Calvin had had another breakdown because I think because of this and he was in

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a hospital in in Jones County uh I took a polygad test um here in Pasadena uh which proved that

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that I was telling the the truth. Were you afraid during this attack? I certainly was and and uh

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I can explain that uh normal what I consider normal here to be is something that that that you

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expect you know just normal fear is something that you expect you don't deserve but this was

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something that uh wasn't supposed to even exist and it's fear that you can't even explain and

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surely after we're for a few months I didn't I couldn't sleep, I couldn't eat, I was home

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on nine all the time but the fear's all gone now and no it's just uh it's just not as much fear as

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it was before.